Adopting Dogs from Overseas Rescues Here

Deborah Wolfe on Pet Life Radio

Deb Wolfe delivers news about 300 cats rescued up north as her guest talks about dog population numbers exploding in the NWT due to no spay /neuter.  China, Korea, Mexico, Iran, California, North West Territories have overflowing dog rescues eager to export sweet dogs to good homes here.  The dogs rescued from the streets are good with people and other dogs or they wouldn’t get rescued in those places.  Jan Olson tells us why we need to rescue dogs from faraway places and how to get in touch or see the dogs available online.

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Loved at Last Dog Rescue on Pet Life Radio

BIO:


I am 70 yrs old, married and a retired airline pilot. I started my first dog rescue in 2006. I left it in 2014 to start Loved At Last. I live on 5 acres in Aldergrove which I bought in 2014 to save a dog named Charlie. He was unadoptable due to crippling fear of the outside world so he couldn't be walked on city streets. After a year of refusing to come out of his crate in his foster home, except to eat and relieve himself, Charlie was going to be euthanized to spare him more years of devastating fear and misery. So I bought five fenced acres where Charlie can roam free without having any contact with other people. He loves it here. The attached photo is of Charlie lying on the bridge over our stream, one of his favorite places to hang out. The other is of him smiling, which he does often now. 

Transcript:


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Announcer: This is Pet Life Radio.

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Announcer: Let's talk pets.

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Deborah Wolfe: Hello, you're listening to Animal Party on Pet Life Radio with me, Deb Wolfe, your host, as always.

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Deborah Wolfe: And today we're gonna have on the show a new guest, Jan Olson.

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Deborah Wolfe: And she loves big mutts.

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Deborah Wolfe: Yes, she does.

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Deborah Wolfe: We're gonna talk all about that.

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Deborah Wolfe: Thank you so welcome to the show, Jan.

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Deborah Wolfe: What do you mean you love big mutts?

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Deborah Wolfe: What's that all about?

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Jan Olson: Well, I love big dogs.

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Jan Olson: I have five big dogs and one small one.

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Jan Olson: I just love their energy, their presence.

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Jan Olson: Well, I love all dogs.

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Jan Olson: I shouldn't say I just love large dogs.

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Jan Olson: I love small dogs too.

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Jan Olson: I've had many small dogs and I just adore them all.

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Jan Olson: I love all dogs, but I don't know why I picked that email.

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Jan Olson: Oh, I know why, because it's the love's big butts, right?

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Deborah Wolfe: Oh yeah, it runs with the snow.

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Deborah Wolfe: Oh, very nice.

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Deborah Wolfe: Okay, so you have a dog rescue.

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Deborah Wolfe: Loved it last rescue.

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Jan Olson: Loved it last dog rescue, yes.

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Deborah Wolfe: Loved it last dog rescue.

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Deborah Wolfe: What is that about?

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Deborah Wolfe: What are you doing there?

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Jan Olson: We rescue dogs locally, of course, but largely from overseas.

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Jan Olson: And the reason we rescue from overseas is because there are very few homeless dogs here in BC, which is wonderful.

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Jan Olson: And the few that there are are taken in by the SBCA, so we have no access to them.

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Jan Olson: So in order to help dogs find homes for stray dogs, we had to go overseas.

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Jan Olson: But in fact, we didn't go overseas.

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Jan Olson: Overseas rescues came to us.

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Jan Olson: We started out as just rescuing.

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Jan Olson: I started out with a rescue called a Better Life Dog Rescue.

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Jan Olson: And that was just local dogs.

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Jan Olson: And when I decided I wanted to help overseas dogs as well, and my rescue partners didn't want to, I branched off and started Loved It Last Dog Rescue.

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Jan Olson: So we find homes for dogs from Korea, China, Iran, other countries, but those are the main three, as well as California.

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Jan Olson: There's a big homeless dog problem in California.

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Jan Olson: And just recently from the West Territories, of all places.

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Jan Olson: So that's where we get our dogs from.

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Jan Olson: So what happens is we post them on our website, we find them a home, and once we find them a home, the rescue, the overseas rescue finds a passenger to bring them as excess luggage, because that's the cheapest way to get them here.

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Jan Olson: And then they go home.

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Deborah Wolfe: So, okay, there's so much to unpack there.

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Deborah Wolfe: China, Korea, Iran and Northwest Territories.

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Deborah Wolfe: I've done shows before on Iran and the Golden Retrievers, which is so surprising to me.

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Deborah Wolfe: Is that what you're getting from there?

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Jan Olson: No, actually, typically we get mutts.

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Deborah Wolfe: Medium sized, short haired mutts, is that kind of, because that's what you see in the Middle East most.

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Jan Olson: Yeah, well, we get everything.

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Jan Olson: We get large, small, medium, everything from all countries.

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Jan Olson: Because I would say that mostly actually, we get large dogs from Iran, because when people are gonna give up a dog, they typically will give up a large dog as opposed to a small dog.

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Jan Olson: Small dogs, people will keep for the rest of their lives, but large dogs, I don't know, somehow people just seem they're disposable at some point in their life.

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Deborah Wolfe: Okay, so California though, I mean, it used to be the dogs coming out of there were little, they were Chihuahuas.

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Deborah Wolfe: Is that not the case anymore?

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Jan Olson: In California, the dogs are still largely small dogs, yeah.

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Jan Olson: Yeah, they seem to just have mostly small dogs down there for some reason.

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Jan Olson: But we get large dogs too.

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Jan Olson: We get large dogs from everywhere.

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Deborah Wolfe: What's the case in China, in Korea?

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Deborah Wolfe: What's going on there that dogs need to be sent from there to here?

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Jan Olson: And you know what?

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Jan Olson: It's meat market.

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Jan Olson: Dogs are rescued from people who rescue them right out of the meat market, who they're being sold to be killed for meat.

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Jan Olson: That's one large way we get dogs out of China and Korea.

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Jan Olson: But also it's just stray dogs on the street that rescuers find and put them in a shelter there.

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Jan Olson: And then once we find a home for them, they are flown here.

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Deborah Wolfe: Okay, and just before we go to break, I want to ask you, because we covered the other areas, what's going on with the West Territories?

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Jan Olson: Yeah, this just started just a few days ago, actually.

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Jan Olson: They seem to have a large stray dog population that I guess they've, maybe they've always had it obviously, but they just connected with us.

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Jan Olson: And the problem there is that nobody is paying and neutering their dogs.

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Jan Olson: So dogs are having puppies that are not wanted and left to fend for themselves.

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Jan Olson: And so all the dogs we're getting from the Northwest Territories are unfixed because they say they cannot fix them there because there are not enough beds in the Northwest Territories to do it.

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Deborah Wolfe: Oh my gosh, that's terrible.

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Jan Olson: Isn't it?

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Jan Olson: But yeah, just beds don't move to the Northwest Territories, I suppose.

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Jan Olson: So there's just very few beds there.

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Jan Olson: So there's no way to get these dogs fed and neutered.

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Jan Olson: We don't normally take in dogs who are unfixed, but we're gonna have to do that for the Northwest Territories.

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Jan Olson: We'll fix them right away, of course.

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Deborah Wolfe: Stay tuned.

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Deborah Wolfe: Petliferadio.com PetLifeRadio with me and Jan Olson.

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Deborah Wolfe: And she is talking about Loved At Last Dog Rescue.

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Deborah Wolfe: And what they're doing is taking dogs from other parts of the world, mostly China, Korea, Iran, Northwest Territories and California, shame on you USA, shame on you Canada.

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Deborah Wolfe: Why are there first world dogs in this group from Canada and America?

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Deborah Wolfe: What's going on there?

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Jan Olson: It's a spay and neuter problem, and you know what?

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Jan Olson: It's not just California.

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Jan Olson: We have the problem in Quebec as well.

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Jan Olson: Quebec is terrible at having a homeless dog population, just terrible.

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Jan Olson: And again, the reason is that people don't spay and neuter their dogs.

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Jan Olson: Sometimes it's a cultural thing.

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Jan Olson: A lot of men who have dogs don't want to take the balls off their dogs.

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Deborah Wolfe: Oh my goodness.

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Deborah Wolfe: You know, I did a show years ago on these things called nudicles.

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Deborah Wolfe: Do you remember nudicles?

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Deborah Wolfe: They're these artificial testicles that men could buy to put on their dogs so their neutered dog would look like he still was packing.

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Deborah Wolfe: It's so ridiculous.

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Deborah Wolfe: Like, it wouldn't fool a dog at all because by smell.

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Deborah Wolfe: I mean, they smell like titanium steel, you know?

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Deborah Wolfe: No dog's gonna fall for that.

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Deborah Wolfe: In fact, a dog wearing those gets swarmed by curious dogs.

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Jan Olson: You don't know what the hell.

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Deborah Wolfe: It's hanging on the end of him.

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Deborah Wolfe: I mean, you hear about people who their ego rests on their car.

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Deborah Wolfe: Don't let your ego rest on your dog's genitals.

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Deborah Wolfe: That's a bit ridiculous.

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Deborah Wolfe: And you know, I'm just thinking of this.

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Deborah Wolfe: When you talk about population in spay and neuter, just yesterday, there's this big story and it's about cats.

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Deborah Wolfe: And I've always said, you know, one plus one cat, one unneutered boy cat and one unspayed girl cat, five years later, it's 11,000 cats.

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Deborah Wolfe: Yeah, well, this guy in Houston, BC has called the SPCA to say, please help me.

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Deborah Wolfe: I have 298 cats.

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Deborah Wolfe: And between making the call and actually having them arrive, two pregnant cats had litters overnight.

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Deborah Wolfe: So now he has even more.

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Deborah Wolfe: He talks about how during the pandemic, people were dropping cats off left, right, and center at his door.

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Deborah Wolfe: It started with two pregnant cats that he took in, and then he became known for this.

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Deborah Wolfe: And so 12 of the cats that were dropped off at his door had kittens and then two more litters, then five more litters, and he just couldn't keep up.

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Deborah Wolfe: He was spending 3,000 a month on food and 28 kilograms a day and 10 litter boxes to clean every day.

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Deborah Wolfe: And the poor guy finally just said, help me, help me, and they are helping him.

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Deborah Wolfe: But they haven't had an apprehension of that magnitude since the 90s.

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Deborah Wolfe: But that's what we're talking about.

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Deborah Wolfe: One boy dog can get around a lot and make an awful lot of puppies.

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Deborah Wolfe: You know, one girl cat can come into heat three times in a year, have 30 kittens potentially.

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Deborah Wolfe: You know, you gotta spay and neuter, right?

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Deborah Wolfe: You just got to.

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Jan Olson: And exactly, and it's odd that we're talking about this.

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Jan Olson: We have just recently been asked to take in two large dogs, both of whom are from owners who never got their dog fixed.

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Jan Olson: And the reason they're giving up their dog is because the dog has aggression problems.

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Jan Olson: The reason they have aggression problems is because they're unfixed.

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Jan Olson: It's just insanity.

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Deborah Wolfe: And a neutered male dog is so much more likely to bite people than any other dog.

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Deborah Wolfe: Like it's just given, you know?

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Deborah Wolfe: You want it safe with your kids, what are you doing?

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Deborah Wolfe: If you don't give it a sexual outlet, if it's not a breeding dog in a breeding program with a couple of wives, then it's gonna be frustrated its entire life.

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Deborah Wolfe: Spend every waking moment thinking about escape and honeymoon.

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Jan Olson: That's right.

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Deborah Wolfe: And what do you need that for?

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Deborah Wolfe: You're gonna have car accidents and fights and every dog wants to roll it, beat it up, get some status, kick it out of its neighborhood.

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Deborah Wolfe: And then not to mention the peeing on everything.

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Deborah Wolfe: Oh my goodness.

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Deborah Wolfe: So like your dog will be so much better if you neuter and spray it.

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Jan Olson: I remember when I used to go to a dog park in White Rock, there was one guy who would come with an unneutered dog.

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Jan Olson: And wouldn't you know, every, it was a nice dog, but every single time he came, the dog got into a fight with other dogs.

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Jan Olson: And it wasn't necessarily his dog that was always starting it.

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Jan Olson: It's just that the other dogs were unnerved by his being neutered, not neutered.

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Jan Olson: Yeah.

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Jan Olson: So we finally had to ask the guy, look, you can't come here anymore unless you neuter your dog.

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Jan Olson: And he wouldn't because he couldn't stand the thought of removing his dog's balls.

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Jan Olson: Just silliness like that.

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Jan Olson: But fortunately, we see less and less of that now.

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Jan Olson: People are having come to their senses.

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Jan Olson: I mean, the fact that most people spay and neuter their dogs in Canada, at least in BC anyway, probably not Quebec so much, is why we have very few stray dogs.

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Jan Olson: There is a connection between the two, between unfixed dogs and a stray dog population.

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Jan Olson: There's a direct correlation.

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Deborah Wolfe: Oh, absolutely.

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Deborah Wolfe: Okay, we're gonna go to another break and come back and talk about how you figure out who gets what dog.

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Deborah Wolfe: Like, what's your adoption process?

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Deborah Wolfe: And also, I'd love to tell people how they can donate or how they can get a dog from you.

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Deborah Wolfe: Maybe there's fostering possible.

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Deborah Wolfe: So stay tuned, everybody, on Animal Party, Pet Life Radio with Jan Olson.

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Deborah Wolfe: Love at last dog rescue.

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Deborah Wolfe: Hello, we're back on Animal Party.

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Deborah Wolfe: That makes you laugh every time.

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Deborah Wolfe: You know, I've been doing that since I first started on radio.

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Jan Olson: I love it.

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Deborah Wolfe: There was a brief time where Seinfeld, on a couple of episodes, did the same voice.

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Deborah Wolfe: And I thought, oh no, I'm gonna have to lose my hello, but then he dropped it, and it's okay.

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Deborah Wolfe: Still mine, Seinfeld, still mine.

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Jan Olson: Hello, yes, that's great.

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Deborah Wolfe: Okay, so we're back with Jan Olson, and we're talking about adopting dogs from far away places, but sometimes not so far away, like California, NWT, Korea, Iran, China.

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Deborah Wolfe: One thing I worry about, because I've seen some of the Mexican dogs adopted here.

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Deborah Wolfe: Well, sometimes they come with parasites and issues that our vets don't normally see and are quite hard to treat.

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Deborah Wolfe: Skin problems, little weird intestinal things.

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Deborah Wolfe: Is that an issue with these foreign dogs?

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Jan Olson: It can be.

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Jan Olson: We do require that they be treated for fleas and ticks before they arrive.

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Jan Olson: But if they come with skin conditions or rashes or things like that, we just get it treated.

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Jan Olson: It's not a big deal.

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Jan Olson: It's easy to fix.

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Jan Olson: And sometimes it can be transferable, but in those cases, we just tell the adopter, keep your dog away from other dogs until it's cleared up.

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Jan Olson: So it's really not that big an issue.

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Jan Olson: And it's actually very few dogs.

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Jan Olson: And I do agree with you.

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Jan Olson: We do rescue dogs from Mexico too.

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Jan Olson: I forgot to mention that.

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Jan Olson: And if we do get a dog that has more of a parasite problem, it'll be from Mexico.

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Jan Olson: That is true.

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Jan Olson: But we still rescue them because they need rescuing.

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Deborah Wolfe: Okay.

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Deborah Wolfe: So when I hear that, I put a little note to myself.

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Deborah Wolfe: Next time I'm in Mexico, no kissing stray dogs on the face.

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Deborah Wolfe: Don't be doing that.

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Jan Olson: It's not usually transferable to humans.

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Jan Olson: There are very few transferable conditions between dogs and humans.

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Jan Olson: Rabies is about the only one I can think of.

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Deborah Wolfe: All right.

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Deborah Wolfe: So what do you do?

00:14:03.344 --> 00:14:10.044
Deborah Wolfe: You get these dogs, and I hope that the new adoptee isn't responsible for paying for vet care and such.

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Jan Olson: If they're an adoptee, they're responsible for taking care of their dog.

00:14:13.304 --> 00:14:13.824
Jan Olson: Absolutely.

00:14:14.084 --> 00:14:21.204
Jan Olson: But when the dog arrives, the dog will have had a vet exam and have been spayed or neutered if they hadn't been already before they arrived.

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Jan Olson: So they're healthy and they're fixed.

00:14:23.624 --> 00:14:27.084
Jan Olson: And so once they're adopted, the doctor becomes responsible for vet care.

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Jan Olson: We could not operate as a rescue if we were responsible for the vet care of every dog that we adopted out.

00:14:32.304 --> 00:14:33.264
Jan Olson: That would be unfeasible.

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Jan Olson: We make $150 from the adoption fee because the rest of it goes back to the rescuer who pays to get the dogs here.

00:14:39.724 --> 00:14:41.164
Jan Olson: It doesn't actually keep us functioning.

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Jan Olson: I usually have to donate money to support the rescue.

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Jan Olson: But no, the doctor is the doctor, is the owner of the dog.

00:14:47.544 --> 00:14:50.244
Jan Olson: So they're responsible for vet care after the dog is adopted.

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Jan Olson: But they don't have to, you know, the dog is healthy when it arrives.

00:14:53.884 --> 00:14:54.864
Jan Olson: They don't have to do that right away.

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Jan Olson: But to be fair, a lot of our doctors do.

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Jan Olson: They get a new dog and they want to get a vet exam to see, to make sure, check it out and make sure that they are OK.

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Deborah Wolfe: When you say $150, it costs more than $50 for a set of vaccines.

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Deborah Wolfe: And these dogs are going to be vaccinated twice.

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Jan Olson: Like that's so no, no, no, they're not vaccinated twice.

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Deborah Wolfe: Well, they will be if they're getting them already vaccinated.

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Deborah Wolfe: Right.

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Jan Olson: Our doctors don't take the dogs in to get vaccinated.

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Deborah Wolfe: No, no, I'm saying I'm saying you have already done that.

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Deborah Wolfe: Like if I buy a puppy, right?

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Jan Olson: Yeah.

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Deborah Wolfe: If I buy a puppy from a breeder, I'm going to pay the puppy price and then I'm still going to have to take it back one more time to the vet and one more time to the vet to get all my vaccines completed.

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Deborah Wolfe: That's going to be more than a hundred.

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Deborah Wolfe: Yeah, that's going to be more than a hundred.

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Deborah Wolfe: I'm comparing your dog's affordability.

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Jan Olson: Can you forget about the hundred and fifty dollars?

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Jan Olson: That's not relevant to what we're discussing right now.

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Jan Olson: We adopt our dogs out for eight hundred dollars.

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Deborah Wolfe: The normal adopt is eight hundred dollars.

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Deborah Wolfe: OK, OK.

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Jan Olson: And the rescuer from the foreign country gets six hundred and fifty dollars of that eight hundred dollars.

00:15:55.324 --> 00:15:59.564
Jan Olson: We keep one hundred and fifty dollars, and that has to keep us functioning.

00:15:59.824 --> 00:16:03.004
Jan Olson: That one hundred and fifty dollars has to keep our rescue running.

00:16:03.304 --> 00:16:05.384
Jan Olson: And you can imagine that that's pretty tough to do.

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Deborah Wolfe: But, oh, yeah, no, I hear what you're saying.

00:16:08.604 --> 00:16:10.044
Deborah Wolfe: And I'm glad you clarified that.

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Deborah Wolfe: So people understand there's a eight hundred dollar fee, but it's more than reasonable.

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Deborah Wolfe: I mean, even the travel like, oh, absolutely.

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Jan Olson: The travel cost more.

00:16:17.584 --> 00:16:20.024
Jan Olson: Everybody loses money on the adopted dogs.

00:16:20.044 --> 00:16:21.744
Jan Olson: The rescuer overseas loses money.

00:16:21.964 --> 00:16:22.744
Jan Olson: We lose money.

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Jan Olson: But for everybody not to lose money, the adoption fee would have to be about a thousand dollars.

00:16:27.284 --> 00:16:29.164
Jan Olson: And it probably will get there eventually.

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Jan Olson: But right now, eight hundred dollars is the normal going price of fairly young dog for most rescues, because that's the bare minimum we can get by with charging and that everybody's competing with each other.

00:16:42.004 --> 00:16:42.224
Jan Olson: Right.

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Jan Olson: So we have to make sure we're competitive.

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Deborah Wolfe: How do you pick the dogs?

00:16:46.224 --> 00:16:49.744
Deborah Wolfe: Because there must be loads of dogs and you can only take some, right?

00:16:50.144 --> 00:16:58.444
Jan Olson: Actually, we agree to post just about every dog we're asked to, which is why we have a lot of dogs on our website.

00:16:59.004 --> 00:17:03.824
Jan Olson: The reason we do that is because we could never bring every dog over into foster homes.

00:17:03.844 --> 00:17:05.404
Jan Olson: We have very few foster homes.

00:17:05.424 --> 00:17:08.144
Jan Olson: Our greatest need is for foster homes.

00:17:08.604 --> 00:17:12.924
Jan Olson: It's hard to foster because people get attached to a dog and then they have to let it go.

00:17:13.144 --> 00:17:17.244
Jan Olson: I've personally fostered about sixty dogs and every dog was painful.

00:17:17.904 --> 00:17:22.964
Jan Olson: But when you foster and you let a dog go, then you know you can save another one.

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Jan Olson: So you take on the pain of losing that dog you love so that other dogs don't feel pain by not getting homes and living on the streets for the rest of their lives.

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Deborah Wolfe: Well, but the whole time you're fostering, because I've done fostering, you know in your mind and your heart that this isn't forever.

00:17:40.304 --> 00:17:44.264
Deborah Wolfe: So you're almost training and preparing the dog for where you think it's going to go.

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Deborah Wolfe: You don't have kids, or I didn't have kids at the time, but I'm taking it around kids.

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Deborah Wolfe: You know what I mean?

00:17:50.024 --> 00:17:52.544
Deborah Wolfe: Like you're thinking about where it's going to end up.

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Deborah Wolfe: I'm not in a busy street, but I'm taking it to one anyway.

00:17:55.064 --> 00:17:56.484
Deborah Wolfe: Maybe it'll live near a busy street.

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Jan Olson: That's very good.

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Deborah Wolfe: Foster homes are training grounds, right?

00:18:02.264 --> 00:18:07.044
Deborah Wolfe: And it is good because the foster home gets to try all kinds of different dogs.

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Deborah Wolfe: When they are ready to make up their mind and own a dog of their own, they've got so much experience.

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Deborah Wolfe: And they do get support, right?

00:18:13.304 --> 00:18:15.584
Deborah Wolfe: You support them, wouldn't you?

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Jan Olson: Oh, foster homes don't pay a cent.

00:18:17.264 --> 00:18:20.604
Jan Olson: We pay everything for the dog when it arrives, of course, because it's not their dog.

00:18:20.684 --> 00:18:21.884
Jan Olson: They don't have to pay anything.

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Jan Olson: And the more foster homes we have, the more dogs we can rescue.

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Jan Olson: But because we have so few foster homes, we found that the best model to save as many dogs as possible was to have a dog go directly into an adoptive home.

00:18:37.064 --> 00:18:38.064
Jan Olson: That makes sense.

00:18:38.424 --> 00:18:38.904
Jan Olson: Right?

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Jan Olson: And you'd be surprised, even though these people don't get to meet their dog before they adopt them, it works out 98% of the time that those dogs are not returned.

00:18:50.204 --> 00:18:52.264
Jan Olson: It is staggeringly how well it works out.

00:18:52.324 --> 00:18:59.464
Jan Olson: But we're very careful about the adoptive homes we pick because we want to make sure people aren't going to give dogs the time they need to settle and relax.

00:18:59.764 --> 00:19:05.904
Jan Olson: Because when a dog is flown halfway around the world and placed into a home with a complete stranger, they're going to be nervous.

00:19:06.304 --> 00:19:14.064
Jan Olson: And that nervousness can reflect itself in growling or even nipping, very rarely biting, and very rarely either of those.

00:19:14.344 --> 00:19:16.784
Jan Olson: It's amazing how adaptable dogs are.

00:19:17.084 --> 00:19:21.544
Jan Olson: But sometimes they take a while to settle in and our doctors allow them the time to do that.

00:19:21.564 --> 00:19:27.284
Jan Olson: We say it takes about three weeks for a dog to finally figure out, hey, I'm safe, no one's going to hurt me anymore.

00:19:27.844 --> 00:19:33.384
Jan Olson: I can let go, I can let go of my barriers and relax and become one with this family.

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Jan Olson: And it generally takes about three weeks for the dogs to realize that.

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Deborah Wolfe: Okay, so we have run out of time, but I want to invite you back and do a follow up show.

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Deborah Wolfe: Sure.

00:19:43.404 --> 00:19:49.804
Deborah Wolfe: Because we have to tell people in the follow up show what kind of people you're looking for, how do you make that determination?

00:19:49.824 --> 00:19:52.464
Deborah Wolfe: And then how do you make the match and how does it work?

00:19:52.484 --> 00:19:53.444
Deborah Wolfe: Did it come to the airport?

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Deborah Wolfe: Like, I want to hear all about this.

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Jan Olson: Yes.

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Deborah Wolfe: And I want to hear some special stories of matches you've made.

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Deborah Wolfe: But first, to end this show, can you please tell people where that website is, where all these dogs are posted and how they can learn more?

00:20:07.344 --> 00:20:07.804
Jan Olson: You bet.

00:20:07.884 --> 00:20:16.904
Jan Olson: Everything you can do to foster or adopt our dogs is on our website, which is loved, L-O-V-E-D, lovedatlastdogrescue.ca.

00:20:17.304 --> 00:20:18.644
Jan Olson: All one word, no caps.

00:20:18.964 --> 00:20:21.124
Jan Olson: Lovedatlastdogrescue.ca.

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Deborah Wolfe: And we'll post the links right up on the show profile on the Animal Party, Pet Life Radio show page.

00:20:27.544 --> 00:20:31.664
Deborah Wolfe: So you can just click if you want to just go there and see the dogs.

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Deborah Wolfe: And I mean, I love this idea.

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Deborah Wolfe: It's almost like a dating site.

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Deborah Wolfe: Yes, it really is.

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Jan Olson: It truly is.

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Jan Olson: We've got lots of dogs.

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Deborah Wolfe: Well, I wouldn't want to have to pick by picture a man and then be with him in my bed at my house and feed him and clean up after him for 12 to 15 years.

00:20:51.744 --> 00:20:52.544
Deborah Wolfe: Oh, my God.

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Jan Olson: Oh, but the rewards, they're so worth.

00:20:56.384 --> 00:20:57.624
Jan Olson: I know you wouldn't want to do it with a man.

00:20:57.644 --> 00:20:59.244
Jan Olson: I totally understand what you're saying.

00:20:59.264 --> 00:21:00.444
Deborah Wolfe: But a dog, maybe.

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Deborah Wolfe: Okay, everybody.

00:21:01.504 --> 00:21:04.144
Deborah Wolfe: So we're going to have Jan back real quick.

00:21:04.164 --> 00:21:05.344
Deborah Wolfe: You won't have to wait long.

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Deborah Wolfe: Stay tuned for that show.

00:21:06.984 --> 00:21:08.684
Deborah Wolfe: And until then, Thank you.

00:21:08.724 --> 00:21:10.084
Deborah Wolfe: Thank you.

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