Miki Jacobs - Sacred Wild

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Joining me for this episode is author, speaker and internationally acclaimed medium, Miki Jacobs. We have a chance to chat about her latest book, Sacred Wild. Sacred Wild provide s detailed and delightful exploration into the spiritual world of animals, interconnectedness with humans and a visit to the Rainbow Bridge with our animal friends and family. Have a listen to this wonderful chat and learn more about we are truly connected to the animals in our lives and all around us. Enjoy!

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BIO:


Miki Jacobs is a prominent medium, public speaker, and author, renowned for her profound connection to the Spirit World. She was brought up in a conservative Jewish household and went on to serve in the Israeli army. However, her life took a significant turn when she relocated to the United States and launched a thriving business. As she settled into her new life, her fascination with spirituality deepened, guiding her on a journey that diverged from her religious roots and the corporate world. This transformative process ultimately led her to close her business and embark on her dedicated spiritual path.

During the initial two years of her spiritual journey, Miki achieved the status of a Reiki Master, offering energy healing to both people and animals. With her deepening meditation practice, she unlocked her innate capacity for connecting with spirits. This newfound ability inspired her to assist others in awakening their own dormant spiritual talents, regardless of their age or stage in life, thus sharing the transformative experiences from her own journey.

Through her work with spirit, Miki has unveiled the notion of our spiritual "Team," comprised of Angels, Spirit Guides, and Departed Loved Ones, who accompany us on our earthly journeys, offering protection and guidance. Miki explores this concept in her first book, Soul Secrets: A Spiritual Guidebook to Your Team - Angels, Spirit Guides, and Departed Loved Ones.

Another significant aspect of Miki's life revolves around her enduring and profound love for animals. Over the past two decades, Miki and her husband Clayton have dedicated themselves to rescuing animals that have suffered abuse, neglect, or abandonment, providing these creatures with a second chance for a joyful and peaceful life on their ranch in southern California. Miki's deep bond with animals intertwines with her spiritual work, as she extends her connection beyond departed loved ones to communicate with people's departed pets, offering solace and closure during times of grief.

Within the pages of her latest book, Sacred Wild: The Spiritual World of Animals, Including Pets, and Its Interconnections with Ours, Miki embarks on a captivating exploration of the spiritual realm inhabited by animals. She delves deep into their soulful journey, shedding light on the profound connection that binds humans and animals together.

Drawing upon insights channeled from the spirit world, extensive research, her wealth of experience caring for animals, and her unwavering affection for them, this book unravels the intricate interplay between the spiritual worlds of animals and humans. Through this compelling exploration, Miki offers valuable insights into the intersection of spirituality and the animal kingdom, unveiling the fundamental essence and shared significance between them.

Miki's extraordinary ability to communicate clearly with the spirit world serves as a conduit for messages of guidance, love, and hope from spirit guides, angels, and departed loved ones. These messages provide compelling evidence of the soul's continuity beyond physical existence.

Additionally, Miki channels a spiritual perspective on crucial matters of the soul and uncovers the underlying causes of various challenges confronting humanity, both on a collective and individual level.

Over the course of her career as a medium and speaker, Miki has conducted thousands of remarkable readings for clients worldwide. Her insightful guidance has touched the lives of individuals through private sessions, group readings, workshops, and lectures held in the United States and Israel.

Committed to sharing the wisdom of the spirit world, Miki employs diverse channels, including her books Soul Secrets and Sacred Wild, social media platforms, and her video channel, to reach as many people as possible.

Miki extends an open invitation to embark on a transformative journey, encouraging individuals to discover their spiritual potential and connect with the profound wisdom and love of the Spirit World.

Transcript:


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Tim Link: Got a super exciting and interesting journey that we're gonna be taking today.

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Tim Link: We talked to author and internationally acclaimed medium speaker, Miki Jacobs.

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Tim Link: We talked to Miki about her latest book, Sacred Wild, Spiritual World of Animals, including pets, and it's interconnectedness with ours.

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Tim Link: So I'm always excited to explore that, how we actually bond and connect with the animals, both in the wild and our domesticated animals.

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Tim Link: And then always the question about how do we understand and better deal with when we lose an animal and what happens in that sort of spiritual world afterwards.

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Tim Link: Welcome back to Animal Writes on Pet Life Radio.

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Tim Link: Joining me now is internationally acclaimed medium speaker and author Miki Jacobs.

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Tim Link: Talk to us about her latest book, Sacred Wild, the spiritual world of animals, including pets and its interconnectedness with ours.

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Tim Link: Miki, welcome to the show.

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Miki Jacobs: Thank you, thank you, Tim, and thank you for having me.

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Miki Jacobs: It's great being here.

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Tim Link: Oh, it's my pleasure having you on.

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Tim Link: I'm super excited about the show because I like delving into a little bit about things that maybe people aren't aware of and things maybe they're aware of from a spiritual aspect, but sometimes don't mention it or don't say it in public spaces.

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Tim Link: And we talk about things about the journey in life with our animals and then the afterlife as well.

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Tim Link: And that seems to be what you cover a lot of in great aspect and in great fashion in your book, Sacred Wild.

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Miki Jacobs: Yes, yes.

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Tim Link: So tell us a little bit about the book and sort of what the readers can expect.

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Miki Jacobs: Right, so really the main theme of the book is a few main important subject, but it was very important for me to express to people how broaden animals are to our lives, pets, animals to the planet, how equal they are to us due to them having like us, as human being, a soul or a spark or a fragment of the creator within their body in the same way we have in ours, and therefore it's make us equal.

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Miki Jacobs: So it's a very important kind of piece of information because unfortunately I believe that a lot of people on planet Earth see animals which including their pet as secondary or below us, quote, unquote.

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Miki Jacobs: And when we are aware that indeed they have a soul, which is once again, the energy of the creator within their body, although the soul in animals expresses its Godlike essence through an animal form, it is nonetheless still very powerful in the same way we are.

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Miki Jacobs: So it was very important for me to bring that forward that people will look at their pet, will understand that since they have a soul in the body, they are able to do so much more than what we just think they are pet and they're cute and they're helping us to feel better.

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Miki Jacobs: They have a great amount of quite magical powers, different than ours, obviously nonetheless equal.

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Miki Jacobs: And since I love animals so very much from a very, very young age, we live here on three acres, my husband Clayton and myself, and we rescue animals.

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Miki Jacobs: So currently we have 20 animals, we rescue horses and cats and dogs, and we have two tortoises, one is 200 pound and we just rescue him about a year ago.

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Miki Jacobs: So we have a lot of animals.

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Miki Jacobs: So I always loved animal very much.

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Miki Jacobs: I always knew how significant they are to our lives, how significant their mission is to our lives.

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Miki Jacobs: So that is in the book, of course.

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Miki Jacobs: And the book is kind of divided into two, where the first half is more spiritual aspect of their path or their purpose, their incarnation, their karma, their mission, their soul groups.

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Miki Jacobs: And the second half of the book was more planet earth information.

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Miki Jacobs: As you mentioned, of course, how to overcome their grief after they leave, what's happened to their soul when they leave the body.

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Miki Jacobs: I gave information about wild animals.

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Miki Jacobs: So basically, I really, really hope that by picking up Sacred Wild, people would look at the animals and their pet completely different with way more respect, way more honor, and way more ways to cherish them because they certainly deserve that.

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Tim Link: Yeah, absolutely.

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Tim Link: And I love that aspect.

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Tim Link: I always look for, not me personally, but by no clients, mine and friends and relatives, they look for that, what is that true connection?

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Tim Link: What is that soul?

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Tim Link: What is that essence?

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Tim Link: Because in society today, like you mentioned, oftentimes we obviously love our animals, especially our domesticated animals, but oftentimes they're sort of determined or society labels them as secondary, as you mentioned, that they are below man.

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Tim Link: Even some religious aspects, religious following state that, yes, treat animals with respect and with love and with caring and grace, but they are secondary to man.

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Tim Link: I'm doing air quotes right now when I say that.

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Tim Link: But I've always firmly believed that animals in our life and animals around us are here on equal ground.

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Tim Link: We're all energy, as I call it.

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Tim Link: I can call it a soul, an essence, a spark, however you want to label it.

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Tim Link: But we're all energy and we select a body as a host to fulfill whatever purpose that we have while we're here.

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Tim Link: And we do our very best to fulfill that purpose.

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Tim Link: And then we go back into that source energy, that heavenly state, that universal space of love or Rainbow Bridge, whatever it may be, however you want to look at it.

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Tim Link: And I do think that animals are much more aware of themselves and their bodies and their purpose for being here than what we are.

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Miki Jacobs: Yes, you know, Tim, that's why my main focus, which why I chose the first chapter to emphasize on the soul within the body, because without believing that, then a view that they're so cherished and powerful and I able to understand so much more broader perspective would not stick.

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Miki Jacobs: So that's why I brought up the soul, or as you said, can be called many other names, you know, God's lights or names doesn't matter, obviously.

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Miki Jacobs: So yes, so I brought it up.

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Miki Jacobs: So that is the main thing.

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Miki Jacobs: A lot of people having a hard time believing in it.

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Miki Jacobs: It could be childhood.

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Miki Jacobs: It could be a religion belief.

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Miki Jacobs: It could be there's a lot of people that follow the perspective that only human being have soul and therefore be superior.

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Miki Jacobs: So therefore, that is why I started the book with the soul.

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Miki Jacobs: Once you truly and authentically understand that they, like us, have God within their body, the creator, whatever other name we call that, supreme being, powerful being, they are unbelievable, way more than we capable.

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Miki Jacobs: For example, we can, like myself, I believe that to gain the ability to, for mediumship is a inheritance within all human being.

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Miki Jacobs: I was 33 years old when I started teaching myself how to quiet the mind through meditation.

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Miki Jacobs: Then I went slowly into energy healing and got into automatic writing and taught myself how to heal spirit.

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Miki Jacobs: So if I did it at the age of 33, then anyone can do that.

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Miki Jacobs: So they don't need that anymore because their soul kind of shine through their personality, which can be lead to a bigger topic that the animals do not have ego, of course ego is not a world.

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Miki Jacobs: It's an energy that resides within the physical body of human being, which is the obstacle.

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Miki Jacobs: It's a producer, negative influences, a negative energy.

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Miki Jacobs: So it's an obstacle for us to aligning ourselves with the energy of the soul.

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Miki Jacobs: Animals don't have that.

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Miki Jacobs: Animals do not have ego because they do not create negative energy to purposefully act negatively, meaning their reaction, their action, their behavior come with nature, meaning they don't have the intention to act negatively.

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Miki Jacobs: So the point is, is they, animals, are in a constant contact with their higher self, with their soul, within the body, which allow them to see spirit, see departed pets, see us, read our energy when we're moody, when we're sick, that is why a lot of animals are able to know when people are dying, when we are not feeling well.

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Miki Jacobs: So there's so many broadened things.

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Miki Jacobs: So the point is that team, although we can teach ourself to communicate with spirits, it's inherent within them.

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Miki Jacobs: And they use it for various way to help us feel better.

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Miki Jacobs: So this is just one example as to the unbelievable powers that the animals have, that is granted to them by the ability to align themselves within their soul, within the body.

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Miki Jacobs: So therefore, in many ways, they are better than us or certainly equally or more powerful.

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Tim Link: Absolutely, absolutely.

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Tim Link: Well, I love your way of thinking because it sounds like what I've been talking about for years.

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Tim Link: So it aligns and resonates with me on a very personal level as well.

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Tim Link: And I concur with everything you're saying within that.

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Tim Link: I do have to ask when going, you mentioned that a little bit later in life, you sort of allowed yourself to expand your spirituality, connect with animals at a deeper level, learn the energy healing techniques and allow your inner knowing to shine.

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Tim Link: Did you feel that when you were younger that you had that within you and maybe perhaps it was suppressed through a society, family, religion, or was it more of a knowing that you just sort of loved the animals and it didn't appear to you until much later on that you could expand that a little bit further?

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Miki Jacobs: Sure.

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Miki Jacobs: So I was completely clueless to spirituality, Tim.

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Miki Jacobs: I was born and raised in a somewhat Orthodox Jewish home.

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Miki Jacobs: My parents, elderly parents are still in Israel now, very much follow the Judaism tradition.

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Miki Jacobs: So I grew up in a house where I frankly was terrified of God.

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Miki Jacobs: I always imagine him as a figure with a beard and a cane, kind of like Moses looking, male, of course.

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Miki Jacobs: So I was, it's a religion.

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Miki Jacobs: And of course we all do respect to listenings and their religious belief.

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Miki Jacobs: There's a lot of rules that I believe that are being written or created by human beings.

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Miki Jacobs: So no, I was very much into the Judaism, which knew nothing, zero about spirituality.

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Miki Jacobs: Then I joined the army and I was five years in the Israeli army.

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Miki Jacobs: I was a sergeant and I was a Uzi instructor.

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Miki Jacobs: So to show you how far I was from spirituality.

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Miki Jacobs: And then I came to the United States.

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Miki Jacobs: And when I came here, there's other religion that I was exposed to.

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Miki Jacobs: And I remember the main thing that kind of woke me up, that religion didn't quite make sense to me, is that Judaism believe that they are God's favorite people.

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Miki Jacobs: And I was saying, okay, but what about the other religion?

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Miki Jacobs: And if they say such an unconditional love, why would one religion be favor for him?

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Miki Jacobs: So that kind of pushed me towards frankly spirituality.

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Miki Jacobs: And that's where I start to gather information, that's where I start to meditate, that well.

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Miki Jacobs: And of course, as it's coming in spirituality, the more you feed it energetically, the more you dive into it, the more it's spread and expand.

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Miki Jacobs: And that's when again, I did energy reiki, I'm a reiki master, I did energy healing to animals for two years.

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Miki Jacobs: And then once I acquired the mind, which is of course the biggest obstacle to communicate with spirit, which include departed pets.

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Miki Jacobs: Once you're able to communicate with one light being, spirit, spirit guides, angel, of course that's include animals.

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Miki Jacobs: And it started from there, but no, I came from as far from spirituality as one possibly can come from.

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Tim Link: I think it's important for people to know that.

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Tim Link: And I knew a little bit about your background and from reading the book, Sacred Wild, a little bit about your journey as well.

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Tim Link: But I wanted to really resonate that or put that out there to the listening audience, because I've talked about it many times.

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Tim Link: I've been working on as a animal communicator and consultant and I'm also a reiki master for animals.

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Tim Link: So I've been doing that for 20 years now.

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Tim Link: And I think that, you know, I've talked about it numerous times, how we're all born with sort of a gift or an ability or an intuition to be able to connect with everything around us.

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Tim Link: And by the time we're in our five, six, seven years old, we go to school, we go to church, it sort of gets taught out of us or it just isn't embraced in a lot of cases.

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Tim Link: And so we sort of divert ourselves away from that.

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Tim Link: And we follow our life, you know, we go to school, we join the military, we go to university, we get jobs, we get married, you know, have kids, all this wonderful stuff.

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Tim Link: But there is at some point when I think everyone steps back and says, there has to be more, there has to be a deeper connection.

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Tim Link: And I always applaud everyone, including yourself, to no matter what stage you are in life, as far as age or just in general, that that's the time if you have questions to investigate it, see what more is out there, allow yourself to open yourself up.

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Tim Link: And as you said, once you allow yourself to do that, and you get into the quiet times, you relax the mind and relax the body.

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Tim Link: That's a guided meditation that we've recorded that's out there on an album of mine.

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Tim Link: And so I'm a big, big believer of that.

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Tim Link: And then, you know, doing a big believer, guided meditation in the ability to quiet the mind and to connect with the animals at a deeper level.

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Tim Link: And so I think it's important for people to realize that, you know, it's okay.

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Tim Link: At some point, you will have questions and thoughts and doubts and you need to expand yourself.

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Tim Link: And you may come back to the point where a particular life, religion, whatever it may be, suits you, resonates with you.

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Tim Link: But I do believe that if you allow yourself to open yourself up a little bit more, you'll find out there's much more out there.

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Tim Link: And the animals tend to know it much better than we do.

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Miki Jacobs: Yes, very much so.

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Miki Jacobs: Yes, very much so.

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Miki Jacobs: They're very tuned in.

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Miki Jacobs: They're just, yeah, delightful.

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Tim Link: Yeah.

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Tim Link: So learn from your animals.

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Tim Link: Live a dog's life.

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Tim Link: That's what I try to tell everybody.

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Miki Jacobs: The cat's lives are pretty good too.

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Tim Link: Cats are, yeah, they have it even better.

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Tim Link: They just lay around and, you know, they let you know what they want and otherwise be gone.

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Tim Link: You're not needed.

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Tim Link: And a tortoise life is probably the best of all.

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Tim Link: You know, you're gonna live a hundred years and you get fed all this wonderful food and nobody expects great things from you.

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Miki Jacobs: Actually, for the defend of cats, you know, for many years, Tim, I used to say I'm a dog person.

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Miki Jacobs: I had dogs growing up.

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Miki Jacobs: I had dogs, you know, until I had the first cat.

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Miki Jacobs: And now I'm the absolute ultimate crazy cat lady.

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Tim Link: Well, I'm the guy who had a feral cat show up, and I decided to feed it and provide a heated bed in a covered area for it.

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Tim Link: And next thing I know, I have three of his females in the harem.

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Tim Link: And next thing I know, I've got 13 feral cats.

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Tim Link: And so I got them all trapped, neutered and released.

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Tim Link: And they thought, well, you know what?

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Tim Link: We like this place.

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Tim Link: We're just going to stick around.

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Tim Link: So I'm sure like you, within about a two week period, I became a 13 cat.

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Miki Jacobs: Right.

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Miki Jacobs: So I think we can agree on, we probably need both.

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Tim Link: Yes, we do.

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Tim Link: The more animals, the more better.

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Tim Link: That's my theory.

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Tim Link: All right, we're going to take a quick commercial break.

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Tim Link: We'll come back to talk to author Miki Jacobs to learn more about her book, Sacred Wild.

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Tim Link: Welcome back to Animal Writes on PetLife Radio.

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Tim Link: Continue our conversation with Miki Jacobs in her book, Sacred Wild, the Spiritual World of Animals, including pets and its interconnectedness with ours.

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Tim Link: Now Miki, we touched on briefly at the first half about the thought of what happens to our animals after they make their transition.

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Tim Link: Do they go to the infamous, wonderful Rainbow Bridge?

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Tim Link: Do they go back to the same source that we do?

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Tim Link: Are we all from the same place, and will we see them again?

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Tim Link: And I think you did a great job in the book explaining a little bit about what the poem Rainbow Bridge is about and the thought pattern behind that and what does happen.

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Tim Link: So through your studies, through your intuition, through your connectiveness with the animals, what's your thoughts on that whole matter?

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Tim Link: Will we be back with our animals that made their transition?

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Miki Jacobs: So at the time of that, all souls, of course animals and human beings, exited the physical body from the crown chakra at the top of the head and transitioned into the spirit world or the dimension of the spirit world.

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Miki Jacobs: Again, there are many names to it.

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Miki Jacobs: So all do that.

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Miki Jacobs: So yes, we very much exited the body, which is an important thing to adapt when we lose a pet.

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Miki Jacobs: That was important to know again, to believe or to open to the concept of the soul.

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Miki Jacobs: The soul within the body, which is once again part of God, is immortal.

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Miki Jacobs: It's multidimensional.

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Miki Jacobs: There is no death.

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Miki Jacobs: And when the physical body ceases to exist or die, then the soul exited the body and travel there.

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Miki Jacobs: The lovely team channeling that I got regarding the Rainbow Bridge is that it is an actual dimension within the spirit world, because the way I've been shown that the spirit world is divided into different dimensions or different levels, and we kind of enter into, human beings enter into the level that they belong to, in a way that where we are in our spiritual growth, animals enter into the dimension of animals and even within the dimension of animals, in the spirit world, it's divided into various soul groups.

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Miki Jacobs: But specifically the dimension of the Rainbow Bridge, it is indeed a place where pets and us, meaning once our soul exited the body, we do meet.

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Miki Jacobs: So I ask as to the nature of the actual poem, and the first person that came up with the poem actually was Channeling.

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Miki Jacobs: So they were tuning in to that place, so it is indeed a real place, which is why I also was teaching in the book the true deep meditation.

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Miki Jacobs: We can train ourselves to, while here on planet Earth, to connect to a departed pet that resides within the Rainbow Bridge, as it's called.

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Miki Jacobs: So that was a really, really heartwarming channeling for me, one that I hold deep to my heart over the years when we lose animals.

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Miki Jacobs: But that's basically what's happened.

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Miki Jacobs: Also, a lot of people ask me if pets live planet Earth, if they're alone, if there's anyone meeting them.

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Miki Jacobs: There is absolutely a great amount of beautiful love by the Creator that love us all equally, of course.

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Miki Jacobs: Remember, we are a part of Him, so it's not not loving our finger.

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Miki Jacobs: The finger is part of our body.

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Miki Jacobs: So there is beautiful empathy as to the transitions of human being and animals.

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Miki Jacobs: We tend to be met by what I refer to in my first book, Our Team, which are spirit guides.

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Miki Jacobs: So they meet us once the soul exits the body.

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Miki Jacobs: And sometimes they kind of help us, because sometimes some souls can get disoriented when we exit the physical body, depending on the manner of death or if the transition is difficult.

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Miki Jacobs: So a spirit guide there to meet us, of course, departed loved one there to meet us.

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Miki Jacobs: But the interesting, beautiful concept is that animals have their own team of spirits that appear right when the soul exit, ready to exit the body, and those are the nature spirits.

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Miki Jacobs: So nature spirits are the one that accompany the soul into the spirit world.

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Miki Jacobs: And specifically, Tim, when I wrote the heart-wrenching chapter about some of it about hunting or animals that are for food consumption and the way some farmers treat the animals.

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Miki Jacobs: So it was very important for me to share and the information that I gathered that there is a lot of beings that accompany the animals through their suffering.

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Miki Jacobs: There is no fear.

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Miki Jacobs: There is no suffering.

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Miki Jacobs: They help them to leave the physical body calmly and peacefully, and then go back home to God into the spirit world.

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Tim Link: That's perfect.

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Tim Link: Yeah, I love that aspect of it, because once again, that's what I teach.

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Tim Link: That's what I resonate with as well.

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Tim Link: And I try to let people know that don't get bogged down by the terminologies.

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Tim Link: You mentioned words like the spiritual world and channeling and spirit guides to you and I.

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Tim Link: That's common talk.

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Tim Link: We're familiar with that.

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Tim Link: We've been on these journeys, so we understand that.

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Tim Link: But don't get caught up in the terminology.

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Tim Link: Just like our animals, we are greeted by pure love, by those familiar energies that we knew, those heart connections that maybe the animals and ourselves didn't know in the physical world, but had a heart connection with another individual spirit, a guide that is familiar to us.

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Tim Link: So, you know, you don't have to...

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Tim Link: If your dog never met grandpa in the physical world, that's okay.

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Tim Link: Grandpa will still be there as part of one of the guides to take your animal through to the next...

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Tim Link: to the universal space of love.

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Miki Jacobs: I can resonate with that because specifically, it was important to bring up in the book not to be focused on names.

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Miki Jacobs: I even use the phrase, you know, in the book, I call God a he.

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Miki Jacobs: Obviously, that's not a he.

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Miki Jacobs: So, yeah, so I'm glad you brought it up.

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Miki Jacobs: Very importantly, since spirituality have great simplicity, that's what beautiful about it.

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Miki Jacobs: Everything based on energy, everything based on love, everything based on inclusive and non-judgmental and kindness.

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Miki Jacobs: So, yeah, so that was important.

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Miki Jacobs: So thank you, Tim.

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Tim Link: Yeah, absolutely.

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Tim Link: Well, it's, as talking to clients, as I'm sure you have for many, many years, they want to know that, and it gives them great comfort to know that their animals as well as themselves will be greeted on the other side and taken care of on the other side.

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Tim Link: But it doesn't necessarily mean that if you and I share the same grandmother, your vision of grandma compared to my vision of grandma may be totally different.

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Tim Link: But the energy of grandma is still the same.

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Tim Link: We know the love of grandma, so it will be the same.

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Tim Link: So like you said, don't get caught up on names.

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Tim Link: Don't get caught up on how grandma should look.

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Tim Link: Connect more with the fact that it is the same love.

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Tim Link: It's the same energy.

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Tim Link: It's the same connection that you know and that your animals know as well.

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Tim Link: And also that heart connection if they've never met them, you know, in the physical form.

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Tim Link: So Miki, when everybody picks up a copy of the book, Sacred Wild, the spiritual world of animals, including pets, and its interconnectedness with Thars.

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Tim Link: When you wrote the book, and now that it's finished and it's out there, what do you hope people gain from it?

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Tim Link: Is there one takeaway or is there a theme that you're hoping that once they read it, they go, yeah, I got it?

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Miki Jacobs: Yeah, so I try to deliver spirituality in the book because spirituality would cause the reader to feel closer to the pet, to understand that their mission is so much deeper.

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Miki Jacobs: They help us to balance karma.

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Miki Jacobs: They help us to feel well.

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Miki Jacobs: They heal us.

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Miki Jacobs: Their energy heal us.

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Miki Jacobs: They're able to sense us and adjust themselves as to our mood, as to our well-being.

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Miki Jacobs: So also the fact that there is a soul within the body.

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Miki Jacobs: They're not just being, that walking around.

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Miki Jacobs: I mean, they have red and broader perspective.

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Miki Jacobs: And again, the unbelievable, unbearable pain when we lose a pet.

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Miki Jacobs: So I'm hoping that would be helpful as to once they realize there is a soul, once they realize the soul exit and go to the spirit world, meaning believing in the spirit world, believing in life after death, therefore, then that would help at the time of grief before because eventually they will leave us and we'll all experience the grief over the loss.

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Miki Jacobs: And also the fact that we also, once we die, we go to the same place and they will greet us back.

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Miki Jacobs: So those are really the main thing that important.

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Miki Jacobs: I also try to include Tim as to why people don't believe in the soul, why people don't believe they're equal to us.

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Miki Jacobs: I wanted to emphasize that in order for people to perhaps recognize themselves in it and realize, you know what, I can see why I don't believe in that.

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Miki Jacobs: Maybe it's the way I grew up, maybe my religion, maybe, you know, so maybe just my own opinion.

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Miki Jacobs: So I brought that into perspective so people kind of can recognize themselves and therefore change.

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Miki Jacobs: But really the main thing is that there is no life without them.

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Miki Jacobs: I mean, I'm hoping that people never will open to pet, will be open to pet by knowing how much benefit they give our life.

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Miki Jacobs: And certainly I'm hoping that the reader will grow spiritually.

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Miki Jacobs: That's why throughout the book I compare animals to people.

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Miki Jacobs: If I spoke about incarnation, I brought up the animal and people.

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Miki Jacobs: If I spoke about karma, I brought up both.

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Miki Jacobs: So I really wanted to...

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Miki Jacobs: I wanted the reader to be elevated, certainly first and foremost since it's a book about animals, elevate their perspective about animals.

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Miki Jacobs: But since they're reading spiritual concepts anyway, then I'm hoping that the spiritual knowledge will be expand as well.

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Tim Link: Absolutely.

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Tim Link: Well, I think you did a wonderful job of that.

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Tim Link: I mean, the book definitely will help people along their own spiritual journey to answer those questions.

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Tim Link: And then you tie that in lovely with the animal world and how they're on this journey with us, and then what all happens afterwards.

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Tim Link: So I think it's a very well-structured book and will definitely help people along their spiritual journey and to help them better understand the animals around us.

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Miki Jacobs: Thank you.

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Miki Jacobs: Thank you so much, Tim.

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Miki Jacobs: I appreciate the feedback.

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Tim Link: Well, Miki, where can people find out more about you and what's going on and where you'll be, all those wonderful things.

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Miki Jacobs: So everything is on their website that I don't do.

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Miki Jacobs: My husband Clayton does.

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Tim Link: Sounds like me.

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Miki Jacobs: Right?

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Miki Jacobs: I was just ready to say that, Tim.

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Miki Jacobs: So yeah, so it's Miki.

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Miki Jacobs: It's mikijacobs.com.

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Miki Jacobs: And everything's there, all the updates, all the interviews, of course, the link to social media that I actually post my own animals and kind of, you know, bits and pieces from the books.

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Miki Jacobs: And some of the videos are fun with my beloved huge tortoise.

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Miki Jacobs: So basically all the information is there.

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Tim Link: Very good.

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Tim Link: Miki jacobs.com.

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Tim Link: We'll post that on the site.

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Tim Link: Everybody pick up a copy of the book.

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Tim Link: It's Sacred Wild, the spiritual world of animals, including pets and its interconnectedness with ours.

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Tim Link: So Miki, once again, fantastic job on the book.

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Tim Link: It was lovely talking to you.

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Tim Link: It reconfirms what I'm talking about.

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Tim Link: So we're on the same page.

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Tim Link: I love that.

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Tim Link: And I'll look forward to speaking with you again somewhere down the road.

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Miki Jacobs: That's fantastic.

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Miki Jacobs: Thanks for having me again, Tim.

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Tim Link: My pleasure.

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